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No. 12599 [Reply]

Who is the better writer, Masaki Hiramatsu or Kuroe Mura?
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No.12637

>>12636

Agreed. You can like or dislike the character designs, costumes, and so on but that has nothing to do with the writing, story, etc.

No.12638

I did not mean outfits, tho; I personally like this as I started watchign anime in the 90s so good luck being over sensitive to sex and fanservice in atime when ghost in the shell had motoko nakd for half the movie and all animes had a token shower scene.

I meant the actual laying out of panels and stuff, but then again kazumi magica is more dense than stuff liek suzune, the latest being my least favorite, even below the canon breaking ones.

No.12639

Almost all Madoka Magica manga and their spinoffs had pacing problems due to being constrained to three volumes, with barely enough space to put meat into the written story content.

Kazumi ended at 5 volumes and was able to bring its story to a full conclusion. It had other problems, but that's way better than how Suzune did.

I expect the same of Tart, with four volumes and counting.

No.12640

>>12639
I'm happy that Tart writer got lucky with his adaption lasting more than 3 volumes. Suzune was a weird case since it was going to end at 2 actually and sad the case with Wraith arc and Hanokage

No.12641

Yeah, Suzune was going to be 2 volumes only, but GAN was asked to expand it to 3, so they made up the whole subplot with Kagari to pad things out.

I'm personally fond of the Kagari subplot, but it definitely has a lot of faults. I have to wonder if Suzune wouldn't've been better left at 2 volumes instead.



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No. 12625 [Reply]

Sup /meduka/
Im doing a research about arts at my university and i want it to be about Madoka anime but i cant figure out how to connect it with context of modern art.
Any ideas are welcme/

No.12626

It's not our job to do your homework.

No.12628

The scenes in the witches' barriers are pretty artsy.

No.12629

>>12628
The architecture of Mitakihara City was based on famous structures from around the world. (The wiki gets into more detail in this department)

No.12635

The story of Madoka is more postmodern than anything. Check out the blog posts by JedABlue called "the very soil" for more information on this. As for visuals you'll have to rely on episode analyses from the wiki.



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No. 12559 [Reply]

http://m.imgur.com/a/EQFGi
WA 9

"Homura is sent through a journey across tims and space with Ultimate Homura. UH explains why bad things are happening and that the shield is the cause of all of it. UH explains that Homura has a special power that was born from her and Madoka's shared feelings. She tells her that Homura has to choose a power, either the sheild or the bow. Homura rewrites her memory and grants herself a new wish. She asks for a bow to defeat all who threaten Madoka rather than a sheild to protect her. Homura awakens her new power and annihilates Wraithpurgisnacht and destroys the sheild. She awakens in a new timeline with her Rose Bow rather than the old one. She leaves behind a piece of the sheild, which Kyubey takes and uses as proof of Madoka's existence. Homura joins Kyouko and Mami to fight wraiths. It ends with the final scene of the series".
???
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No.12617

>>12616
>LQ Chinese scans
Jesus, even the photos were better quality.

No.12618

>>12617
>Jesus, even the photos were better quality.
>photos
>better quality

Are you an idiot?

No.12619

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>>12618
Are you blind? These scans are incredibly washed out.

Compare the quality of this photograph.

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>>12619
To this scan.

No.12622

>>12620
Stick with the photos, then.



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No. 12496 [Reply]

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No.12518

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>>12517
Sorry sorry, I meant this one.

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No.12520

>>12515
She lacked time manipulation powers even before the Wraiths stole her powers.

No.12535

>>12520
Wraiths steal memories and emotions. She remembered having time stop and remembered her connection to Madoka. Hence when the Wraith's took her memories and her feelings for Madoka, they also took the sheild along with it and gained access to its power. I mean, it's not well written, but it's very easy to follow.

No.12536

>>12535
The difference between taking Madoka's powers and time manipulation is that Madoka's powers always existed in this timeline via Homura inheriting the bow. On the other hand, this timeline's Homura never had time manipulation.



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No. 12461 [Reply]

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No.12527

I'm curious how would the analogy of Kyubey on cattle assuming a breakthrough and expansion in the creation of cultured meat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat). For part of the argument is it that makes for human is even if the human does in cattle, but assuming humanity find a better way that benefits all parties how would this technology, the analogy does not fit much because in the end the human have the potential to change their relationship with other beings.

No.12530

>>12527

I think if you were talking about cultured meat then the example wouldn't work for QB, but he'd simply choose a different example.

What QB is saying is a lot like the English idiom "If you want to make an omelet you have to break some eggs". In other words, sometimes you have to do harm in order to achieve a goal. In QB's case the harm is creating magical girls knowing they will become witches in order to meet his goal of collecting energy. In Humanity's case there are countless examples. Killing animals for food is one example, but there are others. For example, clearing land to plant crops or to build a house. Killing animals that eat crops, eat livestock, or invade our homes. Creating environmental damage to mine the minerals used to make electronic devices like computers and cell phones. Creating pollution to generate electricity & fuel motor transportation. Civilian casualties in war, And so on. QB could easily pick a different example to make his point.

No.12531

>>12530
I think he chose the cattle example because he wanted to showcase that both sides benefited from his contracts:

Cattle is sheltered from predators and can fatten at a rapid pace at a less stressful environment than it could have on nature.
Humanity in general according to QB wouldn't have advanced that far on the same timescale without magical girls. And magical girls themselves could have their wish granted through them.

His case does break down in the actual scenario of the series though, where the incubator is trying to enlist a single girl that has huge enough karmic destiny to end up ending all human life on Earth, and in exchange would yield enough energy for QB to leave Earth satisfied with their 'quota'.

No.12533

>>12522
Madoka's new system forced his hand. He had to keep the girls alive as long as possible. When he learned of the witch system, he tried to bring it back.

>>12521
No one ever said he was evil. He's not deliberately malicious, but he cannot be trusted because he only values everyone else as fuel. Kyubey only cares about the consequences of his actions if those negatively impact himself.

No.12534

>>12533
>> but he cannot be trusted because he only values everyone else as fuel

I would disagree with that statement because we know quite well how QB operates.

We know he speaks the literal truth so we can trust exactly what he says. However, we have to be careful not to draw conclusions beyond what he states because of his propensity to omit things.

In other words, it's not that we "can't trust QB". Rather, we have to be careful not to draw conclusions beyond what he literally states.



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No. 11029 [Reply]

Is Fancutfags dead? The torrents aren't downloading anymore, and it's been two years and there's been no revised batch like promised.
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No.12305

>>12304
This is pretty accurate. According to our FAQ:

>Q: What did I just download?

>A: The Puella Magi Madoka Magica movies are beautifully animated, but they also are very rushed, with many critical character development scenes cut out. By comparison, the TV series perfectly paced, and indeed, that pacing played a major role in winning the grand prize of the Japan Media Arts Award. But it has some very poor animation in some places. This puts the franchise in an awkward position where both versions have their faults. This project aims to correct this by taking the best of both worlds. The project aims to recreate the TV pacing by using frames from the movies. Not all TV frames exist in the movies, and not all movie frames are useable in the context of the TV series, but we tried to take as much as we could. In an effort to satisfy as many people as possible, we've included two different cuts.

No.12312

>>12304
>>getting the Fancutfags edition is pretty much a no-brainer.

This. But if you can't find the fancutfags version then a good alternative is to watch the first 8 TV episodes, then switch to the 2nd movie. The first movie cut out a lot more content than the 2nd one did.

No.12323

>>11802

Thank you so much for this!

No.12494

>>11802
I fucking love you man

No.12528

Unofficial batch for the 720p episodes:

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=855624



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No. 10466 [Reply]

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No.11673

>>11669

"Magical Beast" is a very literal translation for the Japanese word used for "wraith". It might be a formally exact translation of the Kanji, but it certainly doesn't sound good in my opinion. Not to mention it misses the aforementioned point about how the two terms out to sound similar.

No.11679

magical beast was recently used in re:zero for maju ; though it was shortened to mabeast which sounds more retarded.

No.11680

>>11673
Wraith sounds cooler, but also lipsyncs better. If the translator went in completely blind, I could see how it would make sense that magical girls hunt magical beasts. Imagine how even more confusing Rebellion would have been if they had gone with "demon" in the translations instead of wraith.

That said, there are enough awkward translations that I question if Yen Press and Aniplex even coordinate.

No.12483

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The cover for vol.1 is revealed and vol. 2 will come out in Feb. 21 2017

No.12486

>>12483
Alright~

Updated the wiki~



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No. 12376 [Reply]

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No.12473

>>12465
>Why? It doesn't look or sound anything like a railgun.

Artistic liberties could be taken, and that "tower" that the "monster" is biting into could be seen as a means to load the "bullets" and fire them.

Also, railguns have a much greater reach then normal cannons, so Mami using this kind of weapon (or something of its caliber) to destroy Homura's barrier encompassing the universe is quite likely…

No.12474

I think Sayaka will become Walpurgis Night and return back past with many magical girls on Law of Cycles.

No.12475

>>12473
>>Artistic liberties could be taken,
Yeah, clearly. And to a very large degree!

>>and that "tower" that the "monster" is biting into could be seen as a means to load the "bullets" and fire them.

Sure. But that could apply to any type of gun or cannon. There's nothing specific about that which screams "railgun".

>>Mami using this kind of weapon (or something of its caliber) to destroy Homura's barrier encompassing the universe is quite likely…

Well, her guns currently seem to fire magical bullets, so it's not as if there's a need for a railgun to up the power.

No.12479

>>12473
Then it's not a railgun, just a very big conventional gun. Railguns use electromagnets, which are beyond the scope of Mami's powers.

No.12480

I really hope they announce something after kizu ends airing.



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No. 12342 [Reply]

What's the point of this character?
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No.12439

>>12437
The plot does not demand Nagisa's existence. If she was removed, Homura would still remember that Sayaka should be dead, which would lead to the same conversation they had in the alley, and the plot remains unchanged. Her character is unimportant; she has no major bearing on the plot; her purpose is really just adding to the "wrong" atmosphere.

No.12440

>>12438
I don't know why you're bringing up other characters in this discussion. The original five girls were necessary for Rebellion, that's understood from the beginning. Nagisa was not.

No.12445

Mado-Homu, Kyo-Saya, Mami-Nagi.
That is the raison d'etre.

No.12446

>>12437
>>ARE infact relevant and help influence the progression of the plot.

Sure, they happen to be relevant. But the story could have been written differently—without Nagisa, and with other characters serving the same roles—and the overall plot would be unaffected.

For example, last week I flew to Atlanta, rented a Toyota from Avis, and drove to visit my client for a work meeting. Was the "toyota from Avis" important? Sure—it's what got me from the airport to my hotel & my client. But if I had rented a Honda or a Ford instead the end result would be no different. Everything that Nagisa contributes to Rebellion could have been contributed by other characters, it just happened to be written with Nagisa.

No.12460

Rebellion is a parody of fanfiction.



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No. 12358 [Reply]

>can create any blackpowder weapon at super fast speed, cannons and even a tank
>can enhance her natural strength and agility
>can create decoys and immobilize targets

Can we all agree that she's the strongest magical girl? Mami MASTERED her ribbons. Not only that she outplayed a girl whose power is time-stop 2 times in the same fight.
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No.12451

>>12450
*external influence is canon

No.12452

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>>12450

>Could we just settle on a best girl and be done with it?


we already did that 5 years ago

No.12454

Uro already confirmed Homura is the "strongest" if no one knows about her powers. Obviously, the primary reason Homura is powerful is due to it, so if you know about her power, then you've gained an advantage. It's why in every fight that involves Homura, the enemy either needs to have some crazy combination of abilities to counter it (Oriko's foresight and Kirira's speed-slow), neutralize the ability before fighting (Mami in Rebellion), or be simply powerful enough for it not to matter (Walpurgis). Even Sayaka needed to escape the second time Homura tried to stick her in a time-stop (not saying that Homura is stronger than Sayaka in Rebllion prior to becoming a demon, of course).

Mami tying a ribbon was a good call on her part since it neutralized Homura's overpowered ability, but that doesn't mean she would defeat Homura if they were standing across from another and began at the same time. It would be akin to slipping Kryptonite into Superman's tights before engaging him in battle (which he did not would be taking place), beating him, and then claiming you're stronger or you would've won the fight under normal circumstances. It doesn't follow; there's no evidence.

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No.12455

>>12454

Of course, just because Homura would probably win in a "stand twenty paces apart and begin at the whistle" fight due to her ability doesn't mean that she's stronger or more skilled than Mami.

People keep trying to use a>b>c logic in fights like it's Dragon Ball or some shit. That's incorrect. It depends on the circumstances and abilities of the opponents. For example, Kagari in the Suzune manga is described as an above-average who is still weaker than many magical girls. But if you set her up in a fight where both opponents stand some distance apart and begin the fight at the same time, then she'd be as dangerous as Homura and take out many people she couldn't simply overpower due to her ability.

>>12390
Her magic was simply described as slowing down the speed of her opponent within a certain range. Nothing about it being time manipulation was said.

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>>12358
>taking the Homulabyrinth at face value
Outside Homura's labyrinth, Mami can only create one type of firing weapon, a simple to make single-fire musket from ancient times. If I remember correctly, the cannon is the same single-fire weapon, just bigger.

Everything else is only in Homura's labyrinth, so the giant cake-tea tank-cannon is just Homulabyrinth magic summoning up whatever Mami thinks is cool. Stuff like decoys are the same labyrinth at work. Pretty much all of the Homura vs Mami fight is the drama theater of Homura's subconscious. The real Mami can't move or fight like that, nor does she sneak ribbons onto friends on a whim, nor does she have infinite invisible ribbons, nor does she have decoys, etc. It's just Homura vs Homura's labyrinth more than anything else.

TL;DR: Everybody is getting played by Homura's AI



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