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No. 12461 [Reply]

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No.12527

I'm curious how would the analogy of Kyubey on cattle assuming a breakthrough and expansion in the creation of cultured meat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat). For part of the argument is it that makes for human is even if the human does in cattle, but assuming humanity find a better way that benefits all parties how would this technology, the analogy does not fit much because in the end the human have the potential to change their relationship with other beings.

No.12530

>>12527

I think if you were talking about cultured meat then the example wouldn't work for QB, but he'd simply choose a different example.

What QB is saying is a lot like the English idiom "If you want to make an omelet you have to break some eggs". In other words, sometimes you have to do harm in order to achieve a goal. In QB's case the harm is creating magical girls knowing they will become witches in order to meet his goal of collecting energy. In Humanity's case there are countless examples. Killing animals for food is one example, but there are others. For example, clearing land to plant crops or to build a house. Killing animals that eat crops, eat livestock, or invade our homes. Creating environmental damage to mine the minerals used to make electronic devices like computers and cell phones. Creating pollution to generate electricity & fuel motor transportation. Civilian casualties in war, And so on. QB could easily pick a different example to make his point.

No.12531

>>12530
I think he chose the cattle example because he wanted to showcase that both sides benefited from his contracts:

Cattle is sheltered from predators and can fatten at a rapid pace at a less stressful environment than it could have on nature.
Humanity in general according to QB wouldn't have advanced that far on the same timescale without magical girls. And magical girls themselves could have their wish granted through them.

His case does break down in the actual scenario of the series though, where the incubator is trying to enlist a single girl that has huge enough karmic destiny to end up ending all human life on Earth, and in exchange would yield enough energy for QB to leave Earth satisfied with their 'quota'.

No.12533

>>12522
Madoka's new system forced his hand. He had to keep the girls alive as long as possible. When he learned of the witch system, he tried to bring it back.

>>12521
No one ever said he was evil. He's not deliberately malicious, but he cannot be trusted because he only values everyone else as fuel. Kyubey only cares about the consequences of his actions if those negatively impact himself.

No.12534

>>12533
>> but he cannot be trusted because he only values everyone else as fuel

I would disagree with that statement because we know quite well how QB operates.

We know he speaks the literal truth so we can trust exactly what he says. However, we have to be careful not to draw conclusions beyond what he states because of his propensity to omit things.

In other words, it's not that we "can't trust QB". Rather, we have to be careful not to draw conclusions beyond what he literally states.



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No. 11029 [Reply]

Is Fancutfags dead? The torrents aren't downloading anymore, and it's been two years and there's been no revised batch like promised.
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No.12305

>>12304
This is pretty accurate. According to our FAQ:

>Q: What did I just download?

>A: The Puella Magi Madoka Magica movies are beautifully animated, but they also are very rushed, with many critical character development scenes cut out. By comparison, the TV series perfectly paced, and indeed, that pacing played a major role in winning the grand prize of the Japan Media Arts Award. But it has some very poor animation in some places. This puts the franchise in an awkward position where both versions have their faults. This project aims to correct this by taking the best of both worlds. The project aims to recreate the TV pacing by using frames from the movies. Not all TV frames exist in the movies, and not all movie frames are useable in the context of the TV series, but we tried to take as much as we could. In an effort to satisfy as many people as possible, we've included two different cuts.

No.12312

>>12304
>>getting the Fancutfags edition is pretty much a no-brainer.

This. But if you can't find the fancutfags version then a good alternative is to watch the first 8 TV episodes, then switch to the 2nd movie. The first movie cut out a lot more content than the 2nd one did.

No.12323

>>11802

Thank you so much for this!

No.12494

>>11802
I fucking love you man

No.12528

Unofficial batch for the 720p episodes:

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=855624



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No. 10466 [Reply]

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No.11673

>>11669

"Magical Beast" is a very literal translation for the Japanese word used for "wraith". It might be a formally exact translation of the Kanji, but it certainly doesn't sound good in my opinion. Not to mention it misses the aforementioned point about how the two terms out to sound similar.

No.11679

magical beast was recently used in re:zero for maju ; though it was shortened to mabeast which sounds more retarded.

No.11680

>>11673
Wraith sounds cooler, but also lipsyncs better. If the translator went in completely blind, I could see how it would make sense that magical girls hunt magical beasts. Imagine how even more confusing Rebellion would have been if they had gone with "demon" in the translations instead of wraith.

That said, there are enough awkward translations that I question if Yen Press and Aniplex even coordinate.

No.12483

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The cover for vol.1 is revealed and vol. 2 will come out in Feb. 21 2017

No.12486

>>12483
Alright~

Updated the wiki~



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No. 12376 [Reply]

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No.12473

>>12465
>Why? It doesn't look or sound anything like a railgun.

Artistic liberties could be taken, and that "tower" that the "monster" is biting into could be seen as a means to load the "bullets" and fire them.

Also, railguns have a much greater reach then normal cannons, so Mami using this kind of weapon (or something of its caliber) to destroy Homura's barrier encompassing the universe is quite likely…

No.12474

I think Sayaka will become Walpurgis Night and return back past with many magical girls on Law of Cycles.

No.12475

>>12473
>>Artistic liberties could be taken,
Yeah, clearly. And to a very large degree!

>>and that "tower" that the "monster" is biting into could be seen as a means to load the "bullets" and fire them.

Sure. But that could apply to any type of gun or cannon. There's nothing specific about that which screams "railgun".

>>Mami using this kind of weapon (or something of its caliber) to destroy Homura's barrier encompassing the universe is quite likely…

Well, her guns currently seem to fire magical bullets, so it's not as if there's a need for a railgun to up the power.

No.12479

>>12473
Then it's not a railgun, just a very big conventional gun. Railguns use electromagnets, which are beyond the scope of Mami's powers.

No.12480

I really hope they announce something after kizu ends airing.



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No. 12342 [Reply]

What's the point of this character?
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No.12439

>>12437
The plot does not demand Nagisa's existence. If she was removed, Homura would still remember that Sayaka should be dead, which would lead to the same conversation they had in the alley, and the plot remains unchanged. Her character is unimportant; she has no major bearing on the plot; her purpose is really just adding to the "wrong" atmosphere.

No.12440

>>12438
I don't know why you're bringing up other characters in this discussion. The original five girls were necessary for Rebellion, that's understood from the beginning. Nagisa was not.

No.12445

Mado-Homu, Kyo-Saya, Mami-Nagi.
That is the raison d'etre.

No.12446

>>12437
>>ARE infact relevant and help influence the progression of the plot.

Sure, they happen to be relevant. But the story could have been written differently—without Nagisa, and with other characters serving the same roles—and the overall plot would be unaffected.

For example, last week I flew to Atlanta, rented a Toyota from Avis, and drove to visit my client for a work meeting. Was the "toyota from Avis" important? Sure—it's what got me from the airport to my hotel & my client. But if I had rented a Honda or a Ford instead the end result would be no different. Everything that Nagisa contributes to Rebellion could have been contributed by other characters, it just happened to be written with Nagisa.

No.12460

Rebellion is a parody of fanfiction.



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No. 12358 [Reply]

>can create any blackpowder weapon at super fast speed, cannons and even a tank
>can enhance her natural strength and agility
>can create decoys and immobilize targets

Can we all agree that she's the strongest magical girl? Mami MASTERED her ribbons. Not only that she outplayed a girl whose power is time-stop 2 times in the same fight.
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No.12451

>>12450
*external influence is canon

No.12452

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>>12450

>Could we just settle on a best girl and be done with it?


we already did that 5 years ago

No.12454

Uro already confirmed Homura is the "strongest" if no one knows about her powers. Obviously, the primary reason Homura is powerful is due to it, so if you know about her power, then you've gained an advantage. It's why in every fight that involves Homura, the enemy either needs to have some crazy combination of abilities to counter it (Oriko's foresight and Kirira's speed-slow), neutralize the ability before fighting (Mami in Rebellion), or be simply powerful enough for it not to matter (Walpurgis). Even Sayaka needed to escape the second time Homura tried to stick her in a time-stop (not saying that Homura is stronger than Sayaka in Rebllion prior to becoming a demon, of course).

Mami tying a ribbon was a good call on her part since it neutralized Homura's overpowered ability, but that doesn't mean she would defeat Homura if they were standing across from another and began at the same time. It would be akin to slipping Kryptonite into Superman's tights before engaging him in battle (which he did not would be taking place), beating him, and then claiming you're stronger or you would've won the fight under normal circumstances. It doesn't follow; there's no evidence.

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No.12455

>>12454

Of course, just because Homura would probably win in a "stand twenty paces apart and begin at the whistle" fight due to her ability doesn't mean that she's stronger or more skilled than Mami.

People keep trying to use a>b>c logic in fights like it's Dragon Ball or some shit. That's incorrect. It depends on the circumstances and abilities of the opponents. For example, Kagari in the Suzune manga is described as an above-average who is still weaker than many magical girls. But if you set her up in a fight where both opponents stand some distance apart and begin the fight at the same time, then she'd be as dangerous as Homura and take out many people she couldn't simply overpower due to her ability.

>>12390
Her magic was simply described as slowing down the speed of her opponent within a certain range. Nothing about it being time manipulation was said.

No.12549

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>>12358
>taking the Homulabyrinth at face value
Outside Homura's labyrinth, Mami can only create one type of firing weapon, a simple to make single-fire musket from ancient times. If I remember correctly, the cannon is the same single-fire weapon, just bigger.

Everything else is only in Homura's labyrinth, so the giant cake-tea tank-cannon is just Homulabyrinth magic summoning up whatever Mami thinks is cool. Stuff like decoys are the same labyrinth at work. Pretty much all of the Homura vs Mami fight is the drama theater of Homura's subconscious. The real Mami can't move or fight like that, nor does she sneak ribbons onto friends on a whim, nor does she have infinite invisible ribbons, nor does she have decoys, etc. It's just Homura vs Homura's labyrinth more than anything else.

TL;DR: Everybody is getting played by Homura's AI



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No. 11892 [Reply]

Post your shelf where you keep your Madoka merch.

I only started supporting the franchise last year and I'm still not sure how I should arrange my manga volumes.
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No.12029

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This is a photo of my current Puella Magi collection

No.12031

>>12029
Never seen the two volumes on the top left before.

No.12053

>>11911
wait… do you have two of the same poster? I know they are different sizes, but still…

No.12057

I am crying at the emptyness of my shelf :*(
I envy you.

No.12453

>>12053

I got the one on the left when I pre-ordered tickets for both films in Japan. Then I proceeded to lose the tickets on the way back to the theater a month later. I literally bought two of each ticket to see both first films once each…

The one on the right is one my friend gave me after he saw the film's American release.

They're basically the same poster, but what's really neat is that Tokyo's cityline and rainbow bridge are behind them on the Japanese poster while the American poster has a blue sky and the Statue of Liberty in the background. There are other versions released in other countries, too, though I don't own them. Korea's is my favorite, being a night-scape.



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No. 12325 [Reply]

I'm looking for these pics.
If you have them please post.

No.12326

Click on the IQDB button in your screengrab. That automatically search for the source for you.

No.12338

>>12326

Doesn't work because these pics are all 404.

No.12340

>>12338
crop out each one and upload them to saucenao.



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No. 12313 [Reply]

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No.12337

>>12336
The guy asking the stupid questions is literally one guy from Reddit who is legitimately autistic.

No.12339

>>12336

A series is never depleted of discussion because you always have someone watching for the first time/rewatching and catching a missed detail, but the thing is you can't discuss madoka on /a/ without swimming in sea of tripfag circlejerk and the same crackshipping/cropped porn posted all the time.

No.12341

>>12339
That someone watching for the first time in 2016 is precisely the person with whom I don't have a lot of interest discussing anything related to the series.

No.12350

>>12341

No worries, you can always stick at madoka threads on /a/ for your daily dose of circlejerk/shitpost.

No.12368

>>12350
Yeah, that's what I do.



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No. 12328 [Reply]

Which New Game would each of the megucas be?

No.12330

What do you mean by "New Game"? Because I don't think I'm following you…

No.12331

>>12330
Ah, the anime series that's currently airing…I'm such an idiot…

No.12335

new game characters are originally dudes, remember that it is based on the authors experiences from 10 years ago.



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