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No. 12328 [Reply]

Which New Game would each of the megucas be?


What do you mean by "New Game"? Because I don't think I'm following you…


Ah, the anime series that's currently airing…I'm such an idiot…


new game characters are originally dudes, remember that it is based on the authors experiences from 10 years ago.

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No. 4357 [Reply]

I guess i'll post it here…
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The links are not working.
Is the site down?



The link is not working



Yes, it's dead.


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No. 11293 [Reply]

Plus Ophelia minions name, Candeloro full name (Candeloro du Polignac) and the song of the witch
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Would anyone mind adding this new info to the wiki? I've tried but the edits won't save for some reason :/


The name of Ophelia's minions and KG's minions plus >>11307?

I'll be right on it


Seems like the text format keeps breaking every time I try to add to KG's page. Wtf


Still no updates to the wiki :/


Finally got it to update~

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No. 12146 [Reply]

I've managed to obtain a few Kazumi store bonuses, one of them being a poster from Vol. 3 of the girls, and while attempting to scan it I found this story on the back. The wiki says it's a short story called Rosetta Meteora, and yet there doesn't appear to be a translation nor a scan of it yet.

I'm wondering if I should upload the scan and create a special page for it or anything.
Is there anyone out there that can translate it?
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from zerochan..


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all the images i could find of art for kazumi magica..

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No. 12142 [Reply]

Mocha Toffee has posted high-quality scans of chapter 8 of the Wraith Arc:

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Oh, and:

5. How the WA plot negatively affects and undermines the meaning of the wish Madoka made at the end of the TV anime.


Remember that series where Mami was literally perfect? And Kyouko spent her time fawning over Sayaka? I sure don't. It's not just Homu, the characterization is off in general.

I think they were trying to reinforce that the wish Madoka made was the right one, but no means the perfect one. That said, WA makes wraiths just seem much worse than witches in general after that reveal. We went from a regulated system where the magical girl to witch ratio was roughly 1:1 to a endlessly spawning horde of soul eaters that even the LoC can't save meguca from.



Why do you think Homura doesn't act like herself in WA?


Well here's the thing. Wraiths don't kill (usually), Wraiths are implied to be weaker than witches and so there are more of them, which is why you need multiple grief cubes in order to fully cleanse your gem, each wraith dropping a decent handful.

If anything I'd say maybe for every 10 wraiths = 1 witch but don't quote me on that. Remember that the Wraiths fight in packs so they have a pack mentality, vs the witches who cry in secluded areas and affect their surrounding Areas.

Wraiths are only dangerous if there are a large cluster, 1 normal average wraith on it's own can be easily defeated by a magical girl vs fighting a witch where it's all dependant on the girl's skill, anyone can die at any time.


Homura's characterization is at least reasonable. Mami is too strong-willed. Some might argue that Kyoko is too obsessed with Sayaka, but it's not too far off from the series where she threw her life away despite knowing that she probably couldn't be saved. But the plot has way too many holes and doesn't make much sense in the context of the animated continuity. Moreover, they overdo the negative aspect of Madoka's wish to the point that it seems like a colossal mistake rather than a moderate improvement.

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No. 12239 [Reply]

Image Note Page 198 of Rebellion Production Note

When Sayaka materializes, the rose garden witch's familiars along with other souls in the cycle stuffed fragments of themselves inside Sayaka's bag to help out.

Out of all the magical girls who had become a part of God, the ones that Homura knows have the mission of a huge event like an instant awakening from a long, long dream.

God Madoka's Banner: Slightly modified from the witch of salvation's crest from the PSP game.

Sayaka: After the mermaid witch's appearance, God Madoka's mark appears on her cape.

(Apparently the magical girls who are in the Law of Cycles are in a hibernation state by the description that awakened from a long dream. Possibly the Law of Cycles is close to multiple merged souls considering the expression "part of God")


>Possibly the Law of Cycles is close to multiple merged souls considering the expression "part of God

Yep. It's instrumentality/nirvana, not heaven.


though perhaps in their dream like state all of their consciousnesses are infact joined together in a dream scape that is like heaven. like multiple users on a chatroom or an MMO.


>users on a chatroom

LoC=IRC confirmed. Homucifer caused a netsplit. When Madoka gets ops back, there will be hell to pay.


and the Mods Sayaka and Nagisa are currently blocked out of the site, everything is DDoS atm on LOCC

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No. 12147 [Reply]

PMMM starts with what is basically a flash-forward. We see Homura fighting Walpurgisnacht, which is something that actually happens much later in the show. (Same thing in Psycho-Pass, another Gen Urobuchi script—the beginning features a flash-forward to the climatic fight at the end of the show).

Rebellion seems like it follows the same pattern. The opening scene is Homura's monologue about the nature of magical girls, etc. She then goes to state that "I dreamed I saw [Madoka] again", and then the movie progresses from there. So what exactly is Homura's perspective while she is speaking? Is this a flash forward/back situation? Something entirely different?

The question is, which Homura is doing the talking here? Can that perhaps provide any clues as to the transition between TV and Rebellion? Or perhaps offer hints at something post-rebellion?
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The "dream" need not necessarily refer to the events of Rebellion, theoretically speaking. Homura may have literally dreamt of Madoka before her soul gem corrupted. There's also Homura's soul gem tumbling in the picture which could support this.


>>The "dream" need not necessarily refer to the events of Rebellion, theoretically speaking.

Yes, that is certainly possible—in a technical sense anyway. However I think the fact that the dialogue occurs in the opening to Rebellion that the most likely interpretation is that it does indeed refer to the events of Rebellion.

>>Homura may have literally dreamt of Madoka before her soul gem corrupted. There's also Homura's soul gem tumbling in the picture which could support this.

Yes, and that's a very good point. I'm starting to agree more and more with >>12158 about this. It seems most likely that it occurred during the events of Rebellion, but before her change to Homucifer (as evident by both her tone of voice, as well as the soul gem)


To order the possibilities by likelihood, it's probably during the timeframe Homura's investigation of the barrier, maybe some time between the TV series and Rebellion, and least likely post-Rebellion (especially since it's not the 'Homucifer voice' and we have nothing but pure speculation to predict Homura's future form).


What's also interesting is Sayaka's narration in episode 04, where she says something like "in retrospect, I didn't understand the meaning or the price of wishing for a miracle at that time". When does she actually say that?


I'd guess she thought that when she was turning into a witch at Episode 8. A bizarre form of foreshadowing, if you ask me.

Which bring up another question: could this mean that Homura's monologue at the beginning of the movie took place when she was turning into Homucifer?

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No. 11935 [Reply]

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I don't get, did Homura absorbed madowraith in the end?


I think Homura was just saving Wraithdoka
The last page is just a flashback to the events at the end of Wraith Arc chapter 3, revealing the main antagonist(?): Homura's shield(?)


This is moksha wraith and not litreally Homura's shield.


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Moksha Wraith in Chapter 3


But somehow Homura's former powers and weapon managed to manifested through the Moksha Wraith

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No. 12058 [Reply]

Wraith Arc 8 spoiler
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That is a reference to Fort Da not walpurgis


It's one of the scenes that flashes after Homura goes AI YO, an implication of Madoka's sealed power.


The clara dolls say fort da all the time, it's about that and Freud, not related to Walpurgis


Wait sorry my bad I read Walpurgis not wraithpurgis ans yeah I noticed , I guess is that fort da reference again since it's a symbol of Homura being sad because Madoka is gone


It's the karmic strands of fate repeatedly mentioned throughout the series.

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No. 11967 [Reply]


From my understanding even if you're lobotomized your body's physical make up would still eventually decompose like… a lightbulb in a room left on, or an engine without maintenance, it will eventually ware itself down and ultimately cease to function. In this case death would eventually come to those whose "hearts" are snatched.

I feel that Madoka's world balances out entirely with the witches world. Madoka formulated a world that would equally spread out suffering and not concentrate it to little girl tears, now it's everyone's tears. A wraith does not immediately kill so it is more likely to save people rather than an instant inescapable death from a witch or her labyrinth.

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The former.


well if you look at the PSP game, Madoka slays Walpurgis and there is a moment of stasis, then she starts feeling weird. She then abruptly witches out. there might be something where in that one shot all of her magical energy is actually FORCED out of her, which then causes her to witch out as her magic count is an infinite negative, (meaning even if grief seeds were available they would have no effect) which turns her into Gretchen.


I don't think Kyouko did anything magic with Sayaka's body other than dragging it out of the labyrinth. I guess for most witches, their body is never found because it gets dragged along with them (I'm not sure if it would decompose in this situation). In Sayaka's case, when her body was found, IIRC there was nothing unusual about it except uncertainty about the cause of death. Presumably it was just as rotten as one would expect for however many days it had been since her soul left it.



I don't know if there are any semi-canon sources which specify what Madoka's wish was in the penultimate timeline, but if it was something like, "I wish for the ability to defeat Walpurgisnacht!" then it seems inevitable that she would have just enough magic to do that and only that.


>>I don't think Kyouko did anything magic with Sayaka's body other than dragging it out of the labyrinth.

No, she actively used magic to keep Sayaka's body fresh. There was even dialogue about this in episode 9. Kyoko is shown using her soul gem on Sayaka and QB asks her why she is expending so much magical power on a corpse. It's very clearly stated.

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