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No.5667[Reply]

Would you cuddle a meguca?
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No.5670

Yes, but I wouldn't want to interfere with them cuddling each other.

No.5671

>>5670
Two lolis fit on me chest though.

No.5672

>>5671
Ya a bird?

No.5776

Can you restore your HP by cuddling megucas?

No.5777

Yes, You can …



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No.5673[Reply]

Remember that overly long reddit post on Rebellion and fanservice? Here's another take on it: http://wrongeverytime.com/2014/07/14/the-rising-tide-madoka-rebellion-and-communal-culture/
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No.5769

>>5766
>Though, it was already as bad as it could get for Madoka.
I suppose, but let's put it another way. Homura, as a magical girl, is driven by hope. She cannot continue to do something that is proven to only result in more destruction, suffering, evil. There's no hope in that. It's not an irrational conclusion.

>She never managed to *save* Madoka.

Technically, sure. She did however make a huge difference. She did get strong enough to *protect* Madoka for something approaching 100 time loops. The threads of fate for all those time lines were wrapped around Madoka by Homura. That gave Madoka the power to make a wish that would break the cycle, saving herself as well as Homura, sort of. Those efforts, that entire ordeal, it's not a meaningless struggle that amounted to nothing but self-deception.

No.5771

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>>5763
>She achieved the goal she set for herself(become strong), and kept her promise to Madoka(stop her from being tricked by QB).
Her goal wasn't to become strong. She isn't a shounen battle anime character. Her goal was to protect Madoka, which she never managed to do. As for Madoka being tricked by Kyubey, it's pretty clear that Homura doesn't look at it the way you do. Madoka had the potential to do almost anything. Kyubey got her to erase herself from the world and leave his system mostly intact. That's tricked enough.

>didn't think the ending was that sad

Urobuchi has also said that Rebellion has a happy end, at least for Homura. Such comments have to be understood in context.

>Doesn't seem purposeless to me at all.

It doesn't matter if it has other purposes. It lacks the one purpose that matters most to Homura.

>>5765
>Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Continuing only makes it worse, and only hurts Madoka.
And what does not continuing do? Just because one option is bad doesn't mean that the alternative is better. In this case, the alternative is worse. The expected outcome of leaving the situation as it is, based on all the previous timelines of experience, is that Madoka will soon die or become a witch. For Homura, that is the complete, permanent failure state which must be avoided at all costs.

>only if you assume it's still possible to save Madoka

Homura has no choice but to continue believing that it's possible, because not doing so means that she will become a witch herself. That means adding another witch with unknown capabilities to the already bad situation. She knows all of this.

No.5772

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>>5769
>It's not an irrational conclusion.
Yes it is. Unforeseen, unlikely events can happen—as episode 12 demonstrates. If you have only two options, even if both are expected to result in failure, the rational choice is pick the option that has the greater chance of success no matter how small that chance may be.

>Those efforts, that entire ordeal, it's not a meaningless struggle

True, this is what Homura eventually realizes in Rebellion.

>that amounted to nothing but self-deception.

The self-deception was trying to convince herself that she was content with Madoka's sacrifice.

No.5774

>>5771
>Her goal wasn't to become strong
"I want to redo my meeting with Kaname-san. Instead of being protected, I want to be strong enough to protect her!"

>She isn't a shounen battle anime character.

No idea what this means, but she didn't want to be so weak, useless, needing protection.

>Her goal was to protect Madoka, which she never managed to do.

Madoka would seal her death by making a contract, and Homura did in a sense protect her from that a lot. Never completely, of course, but the point is Homura isn't making zero difference. She got stronger, she's able to prevent Madoka from sacrificing herself, until Walpurgisnacht.


>Kyubey got her to erase herself from the world and leave his system mostly intact.

Kyubey didn't force her into becoming a goddess. Kyubey gets less energy after Madoka makes her wish, she wasn't tricked. Her wish has consequences due to how the universe works in general, it's not all Kyubey manipulation.

>Urobuchi has also said that Rebellion has a happy end, at least for Homura. Such comments have to be understood in context.

Not sure what this means. Both statements are true

No.5775

>>5771
>It doesn't matter if it has other purposes. It lacks the one purpose that matters most to Homura.
Having Madoka physically there? Even if it's somewhat true, the only thing I'm arguing is that her position at the end of the TV series isn't the worst possible thing. I'd say it's at least better than watching everyone die over and over in the time loops.

>And what does not continuing do? Just because one option is bad doesn't mean that the alternative is better. In this case, the alternative is worse.

It's like you just can't comprehend it. Continuing only makes it worse. That's it. There's no alternative. Increasing the destruction of time lines, continuing just to only hurt Madoka, it's not an option.

>Homura has no choice but to continue believing that it's possible, because not doing so means that she will become a witch herself.

She still has to actually believe it, still needs some hope. She can't believe something that's proven, beyond all doubt, to be untrue.


>>5772
>True, this is what Homura eventually realizes in Rebellion.
No, that's different. That's Homura seeing her struggle as proof of her love for Madoka. She's cherishing everything she did for her, and wouldn't change any of it. I just meant that Homura fighting for Madoka did mean a lot, it changed a lot. Even if she couldn't completely save Madoka, her actions did allow her to overcome the worst outcome.

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No.246[Reply]

First off-topic post in /meduka/
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No.5768[Reply]

{{Runes|OKTAVIA VON SECKENDORFF|variant=musical}}


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No.5707

Well, those are only two scenes. What about the intro episodes, where they sounded weird? What about the script mistakes? I'm glad to see these scenes improved, but I still want to see if they spent efforts elsewhere.

No.5713

>>5707

Well the person who uploaded said they might upload more, and the dub just came out, I'll be sure to update when ever there is a new upload.

No.5731

I'm surprised BDMV's aren't up yet. It's been out for a week right? At least someone should just rip the audio so we can compare.

No.5767

Well, c'mon, it's been two years since the series dub came out. If there wasn't some improvement, I'd be surprised. Remember, at that point, Madoka's and especially Sayaka's VAs were very green (outside of fandubs), and Mami's was clearly out of practice. Mami's improvement was actually really nice to hear since I always felt she was the weakest (I hope her "Tiro Finale!" improved too, it was almost cringe-worthy in the series). Additionally, the VAs know the series now (and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd seen Rebellion before they recorded), since VAs tend to dub blind unless they seek out the series themselves and watch it beforehand. Now they *know* what's happening.

Eagerly awaiting Rebellion dub (and a rip of these two; I don't wanna wait until October for our release, dang it). Betcha Stephanie Sheh gets cast as Bebe/Nagisa, betcha.



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No.5764[Reply]

>>5763
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>She can't defeat Walpurgisnacht. If she resets time, she's making things worse for Madoka. If she doesn't, Madoka is going to make a wish to deal with the situation herself. In that case, Homura isn't being as rational as usual, though that's understandable given the circumstances.
Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Continuing only makes it worse, and only hurts Madoka.

>If saving Madoka after N timeloops would be acceptable, N+1 should be as well. But in the moment she wasn't thinking that clearly.

That's only if you assume it's still possible to save Madoka, which Homura probably believed for a very long time.


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No.5762[Reply]

Have you seen this? What is being done to the country?
The current power Putin has made this database http://apachan.ru/ where you can find detailed information about every resident in the territory of Russia. I checked, and found their data removed, and all that I do that. And then you never know who is out there looking for …


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No.5756[Reply]

Funny pics thread?

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>inb4 it's nothing but head jokes

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not sure if this belongs here

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No.5704[Reply]

Should we make a Freudian psychoanalysis thread or psychoanalysis thread in general? (For example personality types, diagnose Homura as autistic or not)
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No.5747

>>5730
I would say they are above average. Except for maybe Sayaka. I happen to be an expert on this topic, 14-year-old girls are incredibly stupid IRL.

No.5748

All of them suffer some form of Shell Shock.

Homura may be a narcissist at best and sociopath at worst.

Madoka seems has a low self esteem.

Any other?

No.5749

Mami may have something of an inferiority complex as shown by her need to show off.
Kyoko could be considered to have an overpowering superego, as she blames herself for her family's demise, but on the other hand she has no regrets about stealing and maiming ("break all his limbs"), both primal motivations and therefore traits of the id.
More importantly, though, none of them can be older than 15 or so (Mami). I've been through middle/high school, people aren't that bright at that age.

No.5750

>>5749
Might the large id also possibly hint Kyoko has a high sex drive which is the root cause of her behavior? Anyone wanna elaborate on that? hahaha.

>>5748
Are narcissist and sociopath both worse than autist?

No.5751

>>5750
>Are narcissist and sociopath both worse than autist?

No.



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No.5482[Reply]

This is a message to anyone who wants to join in the Madoka scanlation project, or who has interest in it (feel free to post here anonymously, but we at least want to distinguish people from each other in IRC):

We have decided our most active time shall start around [UTC-6 - 21:00], and sometimes an hour earlier, depending on the day. There are no set meetings yet, but if we can get people on at this time every day, we can talk more regularly about what's going on in our lives and how to get our work out more efficiently, instead of grabbing at straws whenever I or someone else is busy or away for a long time and cannot submit/complete our work.

If you cannot make it at that time, let us know what time you CAN make it, and don't forget to include your timezone. I'm doing my best to be online 24/7 to reply immediately to the chat or take messages (if I'm not, I apologize), so even if you cannot meet with the whole group, you can still contribute.

Don't be afraid to just check it out, either. While we do want commitment, I've found that teams work best when no one is pressured and everyone is working on something because they want to. So if you realize you cannot or do not want to continue your contributions, don't be afraid to tell us. We cannot judge you for your life priorities. Anyway…

IRC channel information:

Server: Rizon
Channel: madokatrans
Main active time: UTC-6 21:00 (9:00pm) *make sure to look this up in your own timezone

See you there! =3
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No.5517

>>5516
Presumably from a smartphone.

No.5518

>>5516

4G network on my phone. I can access the internet on it, but I have yet to put an IRC client on it. I know there's a way to do it, but I hear it's tedious and not worth it for most people, so I'm not interested in trying.

No.5519

>>5518
>>5517
Should've expected as much, ok, see you later then.

No.5669

Once again, I will be logged in, but absent tonight. Good news: progress done.
For those interested in the movie commentary I had been working on, movie 1 and 2 are near completion and Rebellion is next! Might as well release the first two film commentary notes before moving on to Rebellion, so look forward to them SOON!

No.5732

>>5669
>For those interested in the movie commentary I had been working on, movie 1 and 2 are near completion and Rebellion is next! Might as well release the first two film commentary notes before moving on to Rebellion, so look forward to them SOON!
They're notes, not subs right?

I was the guy originally asking about them here. Thanks for doing them, and looking forward to it.



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