/meduka/ - Meduka

>>14187
It's cool, I had a feeling that's what you meant. All this talk on the theme aside, in terms of how this thread started, I think I agree on it possibly being rewritten so it sounds less like a emotion-filled rant, possibly making note that Rebellion's controversy is notable for how many people's interpretation of the series may have contributed to various reactions to it, and to this day creating a divide within the fanbase with not much of a middle ground? Laconically–rewrite the criticism in a more professional tone and point out that split the fanbase and general opinion when it first came out.

>>14190
Sounds good to me.
Even though I don't personally agree it certainly is true that Rebellion was controversial and IMHO any encylcopedic discussion of the film ought to mention that. However, I draw the line at posting inaccurate information & fan rants.

>>14149
pretty much every girl accepted that she's gonna die doing this job. not turning into an Eldritch Abomination is definitely an improvement over the last system.
Madoka couldn't fully fix it, but her world was still a hell of a lot better than what has been before.

>>14207
I'll agree that it's technically an improvement, but I think it's a very small one in the grand scheme of things. The staff went to great lengths to show us just how similar things are pre- and post-wish.

>>Madoka couldn't fully fix it
This is actually an intersing point of discussion. I can't help but wonder if she *could*, but simply didn't. We can see that she was powerful enough to literally re-create the entire universe, so perhaps she could have done better? Or perhaps the point is that no matter how powerful she was she couldn't really affect that much change? I need to go back and rewatch the dialogue with Sayaka when they're viewing Kamijo's performance at the end of the TV.

>>14208
>> I can't help but wonder if she *could*, but simply didn't.

We saw a little of that with Sayaka. She healed Kamijo's hand but she didn't heal the rest of his body. I got the impression that she *could* have healed him completely but she ended up making a more limited wish due to simple oversight.

>>14205
I haven't read Suzune, but if what you are stating is correct I'm not sure what other conclusion one could draw.

>>14197
Looking away is not "accepting" of anything. Quite the opposite really. And it's not like takes any effort to look away since it's on a separate board entirely.

>>14199
yeayea, i will look away while-again- people get more free room for drawing out their sexual desires on fictional children/early-teens and train their brain mentally till this gets on a "normal" basis for them and invite other sick people to that board to drool over it. Tell me a reason why we should support giving mental sickness, in this case pedophilia, more playfield till it gets worse with these "artists'" & watchers' mental state till they fuse fiction with reality instead NOT giving free room and either let them go on other already existing boards or knock them some sense with words so they'll go get some therapy, just because its apart from this board. i do know VERY well that you fully understand what i'm trying to point out here with my broken english. it's so wrong and totally dissapointing. Just because those fictional children dont exist and "no people get harmed" doesnt mean that it will stay like this. The moment those people spend seconds to hours watching drawings of children having sexual intercourse or get…from older persons and after this shut down their drawing tablets and pcs and go out while children and early-teens are playing outside… it's so wrong. what a letdown. pardon? "not like takes any effort to look away"? i'm not a lazy person as you can see. i'm not trying to be a hero on the internet, i can't change much. but still, i don't look away because this brings consequences in the future.
There's still many stuff unsolved with pmmm, new merchs are coming out, we will maybe get new infos to pmmm4 in the next years… but well, lewding an anime that won 12+ awards is 'necessary'. Because "we can draw what we want, it's the internet".
after all, it takes effort getting a hold of yourself.

>>14200
Here's my take on the subject.

The stated ages of characters in Anime (or comics, video games, etc.) has nothing to do with reality. Plenty of characters who are supposedly very young are drawn with figures that would make a 25-year-old jealous. And vice versa. (Etna, anybody?)

So what does matter? Appearance. We humans are wired to be attracted to the opposite sex, post-puberty. It is completely normal, biologically, for a man to be interested or even aroused by a depiction of a female displaying post-pubescent sexual characteristics–breasts, shapely hips/buttocks, pubic hair, etc. And likewise a woman would find a male with a broad chest, defined adam's apple, facial and pubic hair, and an adult-sized penis to be attractive if not arousing. I don't think anyone can argue that there is anything wrong with that perspective. If the character is drawn with post-pubescent sexual characteristics I don't see the problem with other post-pubescent people being interested. It is nature, after all.

…to be continued….

>>14201
That said, I don't think it's even remotely reasonable to call someone "sick" for looking at pictures which are attractive to them.

Now then. We do have laws about exploiting children (i.e. child pornography), which I completely support. However the purpose of those laws is to prevent children from abuse, especially from that at the hands of older people in positions of power. And it's not limited to sexual matters either. We likewise do not allow minors to purchase airplane tickets, to rent motor vehicles, to enter into legal contracts, to get tattoos or body piercings, or to purchase hazardous goods like firearms, fireworks, dangerous chemicals/medications, alcohol, and tobacco. The purpose of the law is to protect the 'innocent'. Given that artwork does not involve any harm to any person (of any age), I fail to see how those laws would even apply.

Now, is there some smaller % of the art out there which ventures into "sick" territory". In my opinion, yes. Absoloutely. But there has never been a study that has found that people consuming that sort of fictional media have ever gone on to do anything in real life. If anything I'd think the opposite would be true. Fiction allows people to explore things that they cannot or would not do in real life. It provides a 'safe' outlet because no actual people are being harmed. If you know of a study which suggests otherwise then please link it, I'd love to read it.

>>14202
…and as for the "sick" stuff. As I posted above, I agree that some subset of the lewd stuff qualifies as sick. I'll refrain from mentioning details since this board is NSFW. But yes, I agree some of it is sick. Do I want to ban it? Absolutely not.

This extends to all sorts of things, not just anime drawings. Books, movies, music….there's examples of all of that which I would call sick. But who am I to force my opinion upon others? And good intentions can very quickly become an even worse evil than that we aim to stamp out.

The first comic

Second comic

Possibly a cover

Third comic

And a illustration of Karin and Alina

>>13949
any info on this?
we've been waiting so long :(

>>14152
Apparently somebody calling himself Traduko Soft is aiming to have a complete translation this winter https://twitter.com/tradukosoft_us

>>14153
Lol he’s always delaying the release.

>>14152
Given how long the game has been out I have serious doubts there ever will be an official English release.

I'm not sure why anyone needs one though. If you've seen the show you already know what happens, and I'm sure there is an online guide to tell you the mechanics of the game. It can't possibly be that hard to figure out.

>>14155
>I'm not sure why anyone needs one though. If you've seen the show you already know what happens
Please check the Wiki before making stupid comments.

>>14135
>>production quality
What do we know about the production quality? AFIK they haven't released anything from which we could determine that. Or am I missing something?

>>the wraith arc was supposedly meant to be animated but went with the manga format
Source of that info?

>> I can see Madoka becokming a fate stay franchise…
Yeah, I can see how that could happen too. But I'm trying to get away from fan speculation and rumor and focus on verifiable facts.

>>14137
To answer the first question, there's a concept trailer and stills from said concept trailer on the wiki page for the concept movie

>>14137
Not him, but I think most people assume movie because the entire series is in movie format and it’s almost completely unheard of for a canon movie to be followed up by a tv series. They also still use Madoka Movie Project copyright on the official concept movie material.

Secondly, Shinbo and Urobuchi have said over the years that they’re struggling on ideas. Shinbo said in the final regular issue of Kirara Magica that they’re still putting together ideas together, which means a scenario and script weren’t even close to being done back in 2017. Rebellion was ultimately a movie because they couldn’t pull enough material to make a season 2 and this will likely be a movie as well for the same reason. As epic and grand as everything might seem, it ultimately comes down to the same clash of ideals between Madoka, Homura, and Kyubey that the anime is built on. The origin of witches are no longer a mystery and we already know the world is fake, so there’s much less to drag out a 2 hour movie, let a lone a 12 episode series. Wraiths and Devil Homu are our only real wild cards.

tl;dr
Movie
-format continuity
-lack of material for a full 12 episode series

>Source of that info?
Kirara Magica 20.

>Madoka Grand Order
Yeah, Kirara Magica never impacted the anime continuum before and we’ve had 2 mobage games since the 2011 series, so Magia Record’s existence is pretty irrelevent to any sequel discussions.

>>14138
I remember the concept trailer, I was just wondering if there was anything beyond that that I wasn't aware of. Having been an anime fan for two decades I've gotten my hopes up more than once over awesome previews, openings, or trailers, only to find that the finished product was quite different.

Now I do agree that the new production certainly ought to have high standards–they set the bar very high with the recap movies and Rebellion.

>>14139
>>most people assume movie
I agree, I was just wondering if we had any more to go on than assumption.

>> it’s almost completely unheard of for a canon movie to be followed up by a tv series
It happens. Heck, it's happening right now with the CCS "Clear Card" TV. Plus there's also the option of them doing an OVA, which could be of any length.

>>Rebellion was ultimately a movie because they couldn’t pull enough material to make a season 2
Quote (from where?) or speculation?

bump

>>13490
This group is translating them:

https://tfoscans.tumblr.com/

Bee man is back!

Someone remove him.

Wiki can't be editied

>>13922
And why exactly can't the wiki be edited?

Oh it went away. The wiki simply was down for a couple days

If you go to her character page it has their name in hiragana

>>13962
IMHO it's obviously meant to be the western name "Emily", but I'm sure you'll see it romanized both ways. There is rarely any consistency, even from "official" materials, for things like this.

>>13962
>akira calls her emily in katakana

How can you tell the difference between Emily and Emiri in kata?

It should be Emiri, since that's the more natural romanization of the kata in question. It's also what the manga scans are using.

>>13965
If it was meant to be the western name, it wouldn't be written in kanji.

>>13962
It’s Emiri.

>>13965
It’s rooted in Emily, but it would still be Emiri. You wouldnt refer to Emiri Kato as Emily Kato just because her name is a variant if Emily. Emiri as a Japanese name has also been in use for about 100 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_(given_name)

Technically, magical girls are liches, so… it's a-okay!

Best case senario; 4 year age difference

Worst case senario; 7 year age difference

>>14034
It’s also hot as fuck.